Scrapbook Material
That would be great.
I actually found the
exact date that I
left Zwei.
If u could make
the change b-4
posting, i would
appreciate it.
I left Zwei 14
Oct 64
Still looking
for pictures
that I know I
have somewhere.
Thanks
Larry
Latest from Wil Bettinger: (Zwei then Kelly 1962-64 Hungarian Linguist -
Indiana University) April 2015
wilbett1@verizon.net
Hi Dave, I have burned a CD with 7 items on it that I plan to mail out to you tomorrow. I will of course leave it to you to determine which of these items may be relevant enough to upload to the 6901st website. A summary description of these items follows below:
1. Photo Item "IU USAF June 1962" : This is a combined photo of the very small graduation classes of Albanian and Hungarian students who had just completed their studies at the USAF foreign language school at Indiana University.
In the back row from left to right the five guys are: Bob Gustason (HU), [a guy from NJ, name since forgotten] (HU), Mark Braer (AL), Fred Scott (AL), Marty Masson (HU).
In the front row from left to right the six guys are: Jack Murphy (HU), Loren Howe (HU), [a guy whose first name I have forgotten] last name Gordon (AL), Dennis Knell (HU), Dan Riley (AL) and me, Wil Bettinger (HU). Three of us in the HU category were assigned to the 6901st in Zwei: They were Murphy, Howe and me, Wil Bettinger. My recollection is that most of the AL guys were assigned to the Brindisi, (southern) Italy base of operations which was located across the Adriatic from Albania. The only AL guy exception was Cliff Davies (who missed the photo session) who was assigned to Zwei. The other HU guys were assigned to the Darmstadt base of operations.
2. Document item "Achtung" is an amusing item that I'm sure I saw on a bulletin board in the Zwei operations building back in that time. The item still pops up once in awhile even now and is still apparently popular, although perhaps a bit dated except for guys who have tried to learn to speak German in country back in the early 1960s. But for me it seemed particularly apropos for those days at the Zwei 6901st ops center.
3. Photo Item "Paris 1963" shows, from left to right, Bob Gustason, Wil Bettinger and Dennis Knell in the vicinity of the Arc du Triomphe. Dave Pearson was with us too and he probably took the picture. We were on a three day pass away from the grasp of Uncle Sam and the four of us drove there in Dennis' tiny VW beetle. A very impressive city.
4. Photo Item "Squadron View from Barracks" is self- explanatory and may be duplicative of some other photos on the 6901st website.
5. Photo Item "Wil & Motorcycle" was me using some other guy's beat up old cycle parked outside the barracks for a photo opportunity. That thing had so much rust on it and was in such bad shape it probably didn't even run.
6. Photo Item "Wil & Zwei view" . No explanation needed.
7. Photo Item "Royce and Wil 1963" depicts Jack Royce and me, two very bored airmen, exploring a WWII era bunker that was located within walking distance of the squadron. Jack is on the left and me on the right. Dave Pearson was with us and probably took the picture. My recollection is that the bunker was along the road from the Kaserne to Landstuhl / Ramstein AFB.
If I can come up with any other material that may be of interest, I'll let you know.
It was fun chatting with you and we should try to stay in touch.
BTW, I finally caught up with Robin Lafever on the phone and we also had an interesting chat. Maybe several of us could get together and have a 3 or 4 way discussion on Skype one of these days.
Ron Spike Fuller
I was stationed at Zwei from December 8, 1959 to sometime in July 1962, when
I
changed PCS to the 6987th (Taiwan) and 6988th (Yokota AB, Japan).
I was an A1C AFSC 20250, working in Supp-13 and JDA/E with Army and Navy
EM's.
My name is Ron Fuller and most people knew me as "Spike" and off base we
hung out at a bar called the Montreal Club.
I was in the honor guard for General Lewis from Kelly when he visited in
1961.
We had some great times during my 32 months there. I would like my name
added
to your personnel list, and would like to hear from anyone who knew me while
there.
Thanks for doing a wonderful service to the vets who served the SS all over
the world but especially at the 6901st.
Dunno if you are posting obits of former 01st guys, but I stumbled upon
the obit for Dean Henry, 01st 62-64, OSUP-21 transcription shop just above
the IBM machines section.
I roomed with Dean at Syracuse, and again with him, Fred Stassen, and Robin
Lefever on the Zwei economy.
JOHN GIERE
I would like to find some of my old friends from 1960-62
I was on "C" trick and "D" trick in the
communications center
304 941 8696 and 304 610 8664 are my cell phones would like a call from
someone.
I remember Charlie Parvin, Steve Fisher, Wayne Husslien,
Sgt. Dugas,
Gary Pickens
garypickens@me.com
Query:
I was in tech school with tom and along with eight other airmen joined
him on assignment to Zweibrucken Germany, 6901st scg in november 1962.
Looking for his status, email or info on him. thank
you, JR Pitts jim
pitts
Brian W. McClafferty brianm8614@aol.com
20250
AF13709060
Zweibrucken 1962-1963
Member Jaguars Germany Sports Conference Champions
I need some help in finding a John Tester who worked with my brother at the
6901st SCG probably between 1962-64.
My brother, SSGT Phil Noland was a 20270 at Zweibrucken and in Exploitation 4.
Would you please pass the word to the membership or put it on the site, any
way you can do it would be satisfactory to me and I thank you in advance, for
your help.
Tell them to e-mail me at: Clara19126@msn.com
and I am Trish Schiesser, Phil's sister.
Bob Jarvis
202 Radio Intercept Analyst (we were all supposed to be "clerk
typists")
Became a Public Affairs Superintendent (Radio/TV, Journalism, Media Relations,
etc.)
SMSgt, USAF (Ret.)
The
whole time I was in the 6901st, I worked in an office called JDA/E.
As I remember there was also a JDA/P, in
Misawa
,
Japan
, and a JDA at USAFSS Hq. I do not remember what JDA completely stood for,
but it was Joint Development something/
Europe
. The A might have been Activity. My AFSC was 202x0 and my primary
duties in JDA/E were to process computer printouts for the day ladies, which
included checking the printouts for errors (which were flagged), correcting
those errors on a keypunch machine, resubmitting the new punched cards and then
picking up and rechecking and then distributing the printouts to various day
lady offices. Any additional errors on the second run would have been
caused by bad keypunching on our part and that would delay the time we got to
leave. I remember a large computer room with huge IBM machines that
processed the printouts I had to pick up. My immediate supervisor(s)
during that time was a TSgt Schnell (sp) and a MSgt Barton Darling. I do
not remember the other major workers in JDA/E, but I remember there were a
Captain and a SMSgt in the office and a couple of SSgt’s. I do not
remember any of their names and they usually did not speak to a lowly one such
as me except to criticize if we made one mistake. They were not a friendly
group, but Schnell and Darling were great supervisors who stood up for us.
I
was at Zweibrucken from July 1962 to July 1964 and then left under the 2T
program to Shemya. I worked night shift going to work at either 9 or 10 pm
(I do not remember the exact time) and leaving work after it was all done, which
was usually anytime between 1 am and 6 am, most of the time being around 3-4 am.
I worked four on, four off continuously. There were four of us working
that shift with two of us being on duty at any one time. I might be a
little off on the schedule, but that is the way I remember it. There may
have been a fifth person (one of the day ladies) who filled in if one of us was
sick or on leave. I do not remember the names of the four other
individuals working that shift, but they were the same rank as me. Kind of
a rough time to work, but the days off were great and we were exempt from all
extracurricular duties, such as working in the orderly room with the NCOD (I do
not remember the title of the job). All four of us did get an extra duty
one time and we were each scheduled to work in the burn room for a shift (not at
the same time). Our supervisors objected (Darling and Schnell), but by the
time we got excused from that duty, I and one other had worked the burn room one
time. This really screwed up the work we had to do on our night shift and
the higher ups (outside of JDA/E) were made to understand the consequences of us
pulling extra duty since there was no one to fill in for us and one person could
not do the job alone. The worst thing about this job was that the four of
us hardly knew anyone because our shifts did not coincide with other shifts
there and we each knew primarily those who lived in the barracks with us (each
of us living in a different part of the barracks). Everyone else was
pretty much a stranger.
Here with images of orders as provided by Bill Tarin 1962-1964
Click on hyperlink to access image:
Hi
There,
Can
you add my father to the roster of personnel for years 1960-1963? He was
Senior Master Sergeant Claude O. Laudeman and he worked for a Chief called
Statesny (sp?) He was a cryptanalyst. In 1964 we moved to Kelly AFB.
He returned to
Germany
alone in 1965-1967 and I’m not sure if he was in Zweibrucken or
Darmstadt
for those years.
He retired in 1968 and died of cancer in 1974. I would love to be able to
connect with anyone who knew him.
I saw a picture on the 6901st site I recognized!! The Jagerhoff! We
lived in housing right behind it and I remember feeding the chickens and
miniature deer that they kept behind the restaurant. Many Thanks,
Here is a notice I would like added to the website, if you please.
My brother, SSGT Phillip C. Noland - holding a temporary T/SGT, and a
20270, was at the 6901st SCG from July 1962 through January 09, 1964. If any
of you knew him, or knew of him, please send your information to me, Trish
Schiesser: My e-mail address is: Clara19126@msn.com.
Thank you for any information you might remember.
I accidentally came across a locater file listing me as missing from the
file of former members of the 6901st SCG @ Zwiebrucken, where I served from
1961 through March 1963 and then took a concurrent tour to AFSSO Itazuke
AB Japan. At the time I was SSGT FRED N. GILES. I am now
retired as of 1 August 1973 with rank of TSGT. and located at:
TSGT Fred N. Giles, USAF (Ret.)
460 Trentham Road
Newport, TN 37821
(423) 623-3794 email gilesfn@planetc.com
In case someone wants to take me off of the MIA list and put me on the
retired list. THANKS
I appreciate the info from your site.
A1C Richard G. Crothers, 20250, sent to 6901st from 6951st (RAF Kirknewton)
when Cuban crisis broke out in '62. Worked for SSGT Ligouri Hagerty, as
an
analyst/reporter (on Mod19 TTY five hole paper tape). Overall boss was
Colonel "Minnie" Williams. All I remember is going down the
hill to town
was easy. Army had Cinderella liberty (back on base at 2300) leaving all
the frauleins to AF personnel (and a few Navy). Also remember the long
bus
ride to the big NATO base at Ramstein with a stop at Landstuhl. Did some
touristing in Heidelberg. Spoke 17th-18th Century German ... to which
all
the Germans looked at me as though I was from outer space ... did not know
any of the new technology words, e.g., train=bahn, telephone=fernsprecher
... the good news was that bier, bratwurst, and other foods had not changed
in 200+ years. Good website. I'd never taken any pictures. V/R Dick C. rgcrothers@starpower.net
I was there form 1961 to 1964 and recognized many names on the roster you
had...also saw some of them while in Okinawa in 1967-1971
But retired now..
Been trying to find folks...would kike to find some who served with me in
Okinawa in the 1968-1970 time frame...believe they went to Augsburg..(or
wherever the 6901st function relocated to)..
Any help...the name I ma looking for is John Shoupe he would have been a 3
striper at the time..
Regards
EJ Hahn (Earle) Msgt..made Staff at the 01st in 1963 or 64..dont remember
now...been retired since 1980...got out of SS in Mar 1972
Any words are mor than welcome
ejhahn@cafes.net
Dave, I was in Zwei 1962-63 - assigned OPN-SA Russian 203..... Went 2T to (argh)
Shemya.... I remember the threat to turn the 1st Sgt. into a green
frog - they actually took it seriously...
Phrases: you forgot "IHTFP" - I Hate This Fxxxxx Place"
I played guitar in the little rock band at the EM club "THe
Sabres" (Clever name, eh?)
Great to see a site with more info on Zwei... I communicated
with Phil Conrad off and on the last couple years, but haven't lately.
I'm retiring from the City of Milwaukee I.T. department in a couple months.
One of my hopes is to pay a visit to whatever remains of Turrene Kaserne....
and Zwei...
>
Best,
Dennis Wamser
former SSGT - USAFSS...
Dennis Wamser
Network Analyst Asst.
Milwaukee Health Dept.
414-286-5167
Hi David. My name is Harrell P.
"Jose" Farrar. I was assigned to SUPP-2 as a 201XX from
Nov. 1960 - Jun. 1964. I do not have any pictures from Zweibruecken but I have
enjoyed yours from www.electricianeducation.com/zweibruecken.htm.
Thanks for the memories and info of what happened after I left.
David, I arrived in Zweibruecken in Nov. 1960 so
I'd call it "on board during the period 1960 to 1964. Some arived
after I did and some were still there after I rotated. Sorry, I can't
be more specific. The old gray cells just will not respond as I
would like for them to. I'd bet that Paul Zavislak, Butch Rahrs,
Charlie Sawyer, and Ray Swan can be much more specific than I can about
comings and goings................BCNU................"Jose"
I share with you the following friends that I know
have e-mail. These are friends that you do not have in personnel lists
yet. I did not include Paul Zavislak that I saw on your list.
Charles (Chuck) Etheridge charlesetheridge@aol.com
has volumes of pictures/newspaper items about the 6901st sports. He was
a STAR softball pitcher.
Thomas C. Emerson, Charlie Sawyer and George
Britain were also in SUPP -2 in early 60s.
I will share other material with you as I find it
and remember.
A friend from
6901st.................."Jose" Farrar
Hi... Name is Dick Brun and I was with the 6901st from June '61
through
September '63. Saw the site before with Don's contributions and it
was
great. It is super with your input. I am flying to Kansas in the AM
to
return to my new home where I am convalescing from some eye surgery which
I
have been having performed in California. Have a slug of slides whicih
I
will try to scan and send to you within the next couple of months after
my
eye heals. Just wanted to thank you for your taking over the site and
to
wish you well. I was assigned to "Machines" and programmed the IBM 1401
and
1410 systems behind the "grey door" in our section with some IBM'ers for
IBM
Federal Systems Division.
Regards,
Dick Brun
8735 Eagles Landing
Drive
Manhattan, KS 66502
dickbrun99@aol.com
785-539-0701 fax
I work as a "202" and on the day
shift/eve shift within the operations/antilitacal area. Trying
to make sense of some intercepted BS. It's been soooooooo damn long that
beyond that - I'm lost. !!
I use to be called Tony - the
German gals had a hard time with Greg. I lived in the "Open Room
Barracks" with about 10 other guys. Drove a white VW. Wrecked
it three months before I rotated over to DaNang, Vietnam. Taught
the German Cook in the Ops Building Snack Bar how to make a grilled
egg salad sandwich at 0200 in the morning. We were her highlight of
the day - I'll bet....
Too bad our organizations didn't take
MORE Pictures of our crews and provided them to the troops !!?? Even in
Vietnam pictures weren't taken and handed out. Don't understand
why they didn't ???
I'll look for the names...
Tks again..
gas
This is a picture of OSUP-1(computer operations) "C" trick. From
left to right are Don Heath, Mel Bird, Phil Conrad and Kuy(Hoagie) Kuykendall at
our
recent reunion. We served from 1962-1965 at good old Zwei.
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